Return-Path: <sentto-279987-4565-1015397316-fc=all.net@returns.groups.yahoo.com> Delivered-To: fc@all.net Received: from 204.181.12.215 [204.181.12.215] by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-5.7.4) for fc@localhost (single-drop); Tue, 05 Mar 2002 22:50:08 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 31715 invoked by uid 510); 6 Mar 2002 06:48:57 -0000 Received: from n5.groups.yahoo.com (216.115.96.55) by all.net with SMTP; 6 Mar 2002 06:48:57 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-279987-4565-1015397316-fc=all.net@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [216.115.97.188] by n5.groups.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Mar 2002 06:48:37 -0000 X-Sender: skolyamibyor@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: unknown); 6 Mar 2002 06:48:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 93749 invoked from network); 6 Mar 2002 04:03:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.167) by m2.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 6 Mar 2002 04:03:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web21007.mail.yahoo.com) (216.136.227.61) by mta1.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Mar 2002 04:03:05 -0000 Message-ID: <20020306040304.22651.qmail@web21007.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [216.179.2.120] by web21007.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 05 Mar 2002 20:03:04 PST To: iwar@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20020304113257.00cef8e0@poptop.llnl.gov> From: skolyamibyor <skolyamibyor@yahoo.com> X-Yahoo-Profile: skolyamibyor Mailing-List: list iwar@yahoogroups.com; contact iwar-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list iwar@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:iwar-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com> Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 20:03:04 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [iwar] [fc:Security.Systems.Standards.and.Certification.Act] Reply-To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reads that way to me too. Hmmm... Why the Secretary of COMMERCE, anyway? As a (now-relocated) "DC Brat," Commerce is the LAST department who should be enforcing digital security standards. Commerce and technology are two totally different beasts--or are they? SKByor --- Tony Bartoletti <azb@llnl.gov> wrote: > By my read of this act, it would be illegal for me > to write a simple > "hex-dump" utility, using a standard C compiler, and > then share (i.e., > "traffic in") it with anyone. It this how others > read it? > > "Compiling Without a License - Punishable By Law" > > Slight rearrangement of elements below, to make the > case. > > > At 07:32 AM 3/4/02 -0800, Declan wrote: > >Security Systems Standards and Certification Act > > > >Sponsors: Sen. Fritz Hollings (D-S.C.), chairman of > the Senate Commerce > >committee, and Sen. Ted Stevens (R-Alaska). Draft > dated August 6, 2001. This > >bill has not been introduced as of September 7, > 2001. > > [snip] > > >Sec. 101: Prohibition of Certain Devices > > > >(a) In General -- It is unlawful to manufacture, > import, offer to the > >public, provide or otherwise traffic in any > interactive digital device that > >does not include and utilize certified security > technologies that adhere to > >the security system standards adopted under section > 104. > > Where "interactive digital device" is defined by: > > >(3) Interactive digital device -- The term > "interactive digital device" > >means "any machine, device, product, software, or > technology, whether or not > >included with or as part of some other machine, > device, product, software, > >or technology, that is designed, marketed or used > for the primary purpose > >of, and that is capable of, storing, retrieving, > processing, performing, > >transmitting, receiving, or copying information in > digital form." > > And "certified security technology" is defined by: > > >(1) Certified security technology -- The term > "certified security > >technology" means a security technology certified > by the Secretary of > >Commerce under section 105. > > > Thus, unless and until I get my lousy "hex-dump" > utility (interactive > digital device) to utilize "a security technology > certified by the > Secretary of Commerce" (certified security > technology), I will be in > violation of federal law if and when I "offer to the > public, provide, or > otherwise traffic in" this simple utility. > > ____tony____ > > > Tony Bartoletti 925-422-3881 <azb@llnl.gov> > Information Operations, Warfare and Assurance Center > Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory > Livermore, CA 94551-9900 > > > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! http://mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Tiny Wireless Camera under $80! Order Now! FREE VCR Commander! Click Here - Only 1 Day Left! http://us.click.yahoo.com/nuyOHD/7.PDAA/yigFAA/kgFolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> ------------------ http://all.net/ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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