Return-Path: <sentto-279987-4656-1021384202-fc=all.net@returns.groups.yahoo.com> Delivered-To: fc@all.net Received: from 204.181.12.215 [204.181.12.215] by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-5.7.4) for fc@localhost (single-drop); Tue, 14 May 2002 07:03:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 20083 invoked by uid 510); 14 May 2002 13:56:32 -0000 Received: from n1.grp.scd.yahoo.com (66.218.66.64) by all.net with SMTP; 14 May 2002 13:56:32 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-279987-4656-1021384202-fc=all.net@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.66.96] by n1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 May 2002 13:50:02 -0000 X-Sender: fc@red.all.net X-Apparently-To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_3_2); 14 May 2002 13:50:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 1954 invoked from network); 14 May 2002 13:50:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m13.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 14 May 2002 13:50:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO red.all.net) (12.232.72.152) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 May 2002 13:50:01 -0000 Received: (from fc@localhost) by red.all.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) id g4EDpC019524 for iwar@yahoogroups.com; Tue, 14 May 2002 06:51:12 -0700 Message-Id: <200205141351.g4EDpC019524@red.all.net> To: iwar@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <20020514044530.55817.qmail@web14506.mail.yahoo.com> from "e.r." at May 13, 2002 09:45:30 PM Organization: I'm not allowed to say X-Mailer: don't even ask X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] From: Fred Cohen <fc@all.net> X-Yahoo-Profile: fcallnet Mailing-List: list iwar@yahoogroups.com; contact iwar-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list iwar@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:iwar-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com> Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 06:51:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [iwar] Nobodh has dies from cyber attacks? How ridiculous! Reply-To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Per the message sent by e.r.: > Hi Tony and all: ... > The US has been painfully slow to recognize cyber attacks as a serious > problem and while some say " no one has died" from cyber threats, who > knows who the future brings as society become even more dependant on > computers for nearly everthing. This is a really strange assertion. Lots of people have dies as a result of cyber attack, and lots have been saved by it as well. WW2 has plenty of examples of defeating protection in information systems in order to gain intelligence that saved/killed thousands of people. In nearly every moden military action, hundreds to thousands of lives hang in the balance and people live or die directly because of the success or failure of protection in information systems. ,,, --This communication is confidential to the parties it is intended to serve-- Fred Cohen Fred Cohen & Associates.........tel/fax:925-454-0171 fc@all.net The University of New Haven.....http://www.unhca.com/ http://all.net/ Sandia National Laboratories....tel:925-294-2087 ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Tied to your PC? Cut Loose and Stay connected with Yahoo! Mobile http://us.click.yahoo.com/QBCcSD/o1CEAA/sXBHAA/kgFolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> ------------------ http://all.net/ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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