Return-Path: <sentto-279987-4657-1021433987-fc=all.net@returns.groups.yahoo.com> Delivered-To: fc@all.net Received: from 204.181.12.215 [204.181.12.215] by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-5.7.4) for fc@localhost (single-drop); Tue, 14 May 2002 20:43:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 19075 invoked by uid 510); 15 May 2002 03:39:53 -0000 Received: from n29.grp.scd.yahoo.com (66.218.66.85) by all.net with SMTP; 15 May 2002 03:39:53 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-279987-4657-1021433987-fc=all.net@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.66.95] by n29.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 May 2002 03:39:47 -0000 X-Sender: fastflyer28@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_3_2); 15 May 2002 03:39:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 95467 invoked from network); 15 May 2002 03:39:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m7.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 15 May 2002 03:39:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web14505.mail.yahoo.com) (216.136.224.68) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 May 2002 03:39:46 -0000 Message-ID: <20020515033946.50621.qmail@web14505.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [68.100.119.16] by web14505.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 14 May 2002 20:39:46 PDT To: iwar@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <200205141351.g4EDpC019524@red.all.net> From: "e.r." <fastflyer28@yahoo.com> X-Yahoo-Profile: fastflyer28 Mailing-List: list iwar@yahoogroups.com; contact iwar-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list iwar@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:iwar-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com> Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 20:39:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [iwar] Nobodh has dies from cyber attacks? How ridiculous! Reply-To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I agree, not you FC, but only last year at the NDU Joint Forces Con, primarily the brass that it truely not possible that 3000 people would die on 9-11 this year. The world changes as so does cyber abuse. Who knows-some day the ante will be go up at the right time, and then who Knows? Fred Cohen <fc@all.net> wrote: Per the message sent by e.r.: > Hi Tony and all: ... > The US has been painfully slow to recognize cyber attacks as a serious > problem and while some say " no one has died" from cyber threats, who > knows who the future brings as society become even more dependant on > computers for nearly everthing. This is a really strange assertion. Lots of people have dies as a result of cyber attack, and lots have been saved by it as well. WW2 has plenty of examples of defeating protection in information systems in order to gain intelligence that saved/killed thousands of people. In nearly every moden military action, hundreds to thousands of lives hang in the balance and people live or die directly because of the success or failure of protection in information systems. ,,, --This communication is confidential to the parties it is intended to serve-- Fred Cohen Fred Cohen & Associates.........tel/fax:925-454-0171 fc@all.net The University of New Haven.....http://www.unhca.com/ http://all.net/ Sandia National Laboratories....tel:925-294-2087 Yahoo! Groups SponsorADVERTISEMENT ------------------ http://all.net/ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Tied to your PC? Cut Loose and Stay connected with Yahoo! Mobile http://us.click.yahoo.com/QBCcSD/o1CEAA/sXBHAA/kgFolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> ------------------ http://all.net/ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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