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From: "St. Clair, James" <JStClair@vredenburg.com>
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Subject: RE: [iwar] interesting piece (fwd)
Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 07:08:28 -0700
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you wrote:
As I review the actual article (didn't sit down and actually read it in
detail before) I do think some of the things stated as if widely
published are a bit a-Maze-ing. Even more amazing is the claim that
they still can't defend themselves. How bad can these folks be? I guess
Adams really wants to be a Star!
He mixes what he illicitly knows with what he thinks he knows to create a
picture that is neither accurate nor unclassified, all mixed up to support
his angle.
>So you think he will become inEligible after his handlers read his posting?
..one can only hope..
I guess for as bad as things are here, at least they are better than the
security mess overseas. I guess if the russians could lock their systems
down, we wouldn't have so many compromised russian boxes hacking the US. ;)
best,
Jim St.Clair
Critical Infrastructure Protection
Vredenburg
(703) 412-4611
-----Original Message-----
From: Fred Cohen [mailto:fc@all.net]
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 10:02 AM
To: JStClair@vredenburg.com
Subject: Re: [iwar] interesting piece (fwd)
Per the message sent by St. Clair, James:
> > ..send it to me in a properly double wrapped mail (or FedEx these
> days) package at my Sandia address?
> Actually, nothing worth spending the money on FEDEX for..;)
> Your work with Sandia probably brought you in touch with some of the other
> issues going on anyway..(OBTW, do you work with the IDART folks? say hi to
> Ruth..)
So so... They actually do a much better job for the money than most
other teams I have seen, but the only real way to emulate a foreign
government is to pay what it costs to do the job right and from their
perspective. Nobody really wants to know.
> >I'm in California - pretty nice day actually...
> Cali it is! Burn a candle for me! (like everyone will be soon! ;)
My UPSs and motor generators are always ready...
As I review the actual article (didn't sit down and actually read it in
detail before) I do think some of the things stated as if widely
published are a bit a-Maze-ing. Even more amazing is the claim that
they still can't defend themselves. How bad can these folks be? I guess
Adams really wants to be a Star! So you think he will become inEligible
after his handlers read his posting?
Can I get the 30 phone numbers in Russia? It might be worth making a
call...
FC
> Jim St.Clair
> Critical Infrastructure Protection
> Vredenburg
> (703) 412-4611
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Fred Cohen [mailto:fc@all.net]
> Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 9:48 AM
> To: JStClair@vredenburg.com
> Subject: Re: [iwar] interesting piece (fwd)
> Per the message sent by St. Clair, James:
> > You wrote:
> > Should I have added a
> > ? top the end of my subject line?
> > I defer to you Sir. ;)
> > Realizing this list consists of all backgrounds with all perpectives
> > it makes prob any and all things worth throwing out. As a beltway guy I
am
> > here to tell you (as an INFOSEC pro) this guy is a charlatan, and his
> > company's success supports this theory.
> I met him at a conference, spok with him, and long ago decided not to
> engage him in any work I do, but I still feel value in throwing all
> ideas out to the list.
> > Also he wears his NSA title as badge
> > of honor, yet this time his writing actually compromises classified
> > information. I have already sent a note about this to a friend of mine
> that
> > works there, so we'll see where this goes, if anywhere.
> So... If I ask what the classified content he gives away is you will
> have to send it to me in a properly double wrapped mail (or FedEx these
> days) package at my Sandia address?
> > Hope New Haven is as nice as D.C. is today..
> I'm in California - pretty nice day actually...
> FC
> > Jim St.Clair
> > Critical Infrastructure Protection
> > Vredenburg
> > (703) 412-4611
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