Return-Path: <sentto-279987-3088-1003409159-fc=all.net@returns.onelist.com> Delivered-To: fc@all.net Received: from 204.181.12.215 by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-5.1.0) for fc@localhost (single-drop); Thu, 18 Oct 2001 05:47:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 11635 invoked by uid 510); 18 Oct 2001 12:45:37 -0000 Received: from n32.groups.yahoo.com (216.115.96.82) by 204.181.12.215 with SMTP; 18 Oct 2001 12:45:37 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-279987-3088-1003409159-fc=all.net@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.4.54] by n32.groups.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Oct 2001 12:45:59 -0000 X-Sender: ellisd@cs.ucsb.edu X-Apparently-To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_0_1); 18 Oct 2001 12:45:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 69600 invoked from network); 18 Oct 2001 12:45:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 18 Oct 2001 12:45:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n35.groups.yahoo.com) (216.115.96.85) by mta2 with SMTP; 18 Oct 2001 12:45:58 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: ellisd@cs.ucsb.edu Received: from [10.1.10.103] by n35.groups.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Oct 2001 12:44:27 -0000 To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: <9qmir7+6re9@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 128.29.4.2 From: ellisd@cs.ucsb.edu X-Yahoo-Profile: danielrellis Mailing-List: list iwar@yahoogroups.com; contact iwar-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list iwar@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:iwar-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com> Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 12:44:23 -0000 Reply-To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [iwar] The role of self-attribution Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Why didn't the organization behind the 9/11 attack take credit? Why hasn't the organization behind the ongoing anthrax saga taken credit? Is there more information strength in ambiguity? The pros (as I see them) to not taking credit are: -Our inference mechanisms may be incorrect leading to misdirection -Psychological effects of uncertainty -subjects insite more fear within themselves than actors could -in a forest-like organization (as opposed to a tree-like organization), it is more difficult to attribute credit when there maybe multiple forces involved, not taking credit avoids rifts The cons: -Other psychological effects -Being deemed a coward and summarily dismissed Undetermined (by myself): -Which has a greater influence to insight would-be followers? If you have no followers but want to take advantage of somebody else's followers, then obviously not taking credit is a good thing. This, I suppose goes along with the misdirection pro. I am sure there are better reasons (pros and cons) and I just haven't been enlightened yet. Regardless, the lack of self-attribution in the recent events has really bothered me. It seems more "manly" for lack of a better word (forgive me here, e.r.) to take credit, but so far, I can so no real reason to take credit when attribution can be avoided. If you feel that I am way off target in context of the recent attacks, then please generalize my comments. I am aware of a great deal of evidence which provides some degree of attribution, but that attribution is far from complete. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Pinpoint the right security solution for your company- Learn how to add 128- bit encryption and to authenticate your web site with VeriSign's FREE guide! http://us.click.yahoo.com/yQix2C/33_CAA/yigFAA/kgFolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> ------------------ http://all.net/ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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