Return-Path: <sentto-279987-3139-1003470511-fc=all.net@returns.onelist.com> Delivered-To: fc@all.net Received: from 204.181.12.215 [204.181.12.215] by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-5.7.4) for fc@localhost (single-drop); Thu, 18 Oct 2001 22:49:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 17879 invoked by uid 510); 19 Oct 2001 05:48:09 -0000 Received: from n6.groups.yahoo.com (216.115.96.56) by 204.181.12.215 with SMTP; 19 Oct 2001 05:48:09 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-279987-3139-1003470511-fc=all.net@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.4.53] by n6.groups.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Oct 2001 05:48:32 -0000 X-Sender: amicus@well.com X-Apparently-To: iwar@onelist.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_0_1); 19 Oct 2001 05:48:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 82216 invoked from network); 19 Oct 2001 05:48:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 19 Oct 2001 05:48:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.well.com) (206.14.209.7) by mta2 with SMTP; 19 Oct 2001 05:48:31 -0000 Received: from home.well.com (adsl-64-163-215-99.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [64.163.215.99]) by smtp.well.com (8.8.5/8.8.4) with ESMTP id WAA16256 for <iwar@onelist.com>; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 22:48:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20011018222736.00b3b460@embassy.org> X-Sender: amicus@mail.well.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 To: iwar@onelist.com (Information Warfare Mailing List) In-Reply-To: <200110190520.f9J5KSp02955@red.all.net> From: Ross Stapleton-Gray <amicus@well.com> Mailing-List: list iwar@yahoogroups.com; contact iwar-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list iwar@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:iwar-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com> Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 22:39:31 -0700 Reply-To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [iwar] [fc:You.negotiate.with.your.enemies.with.your.knee.on.his.chest.and.you r.knife.at.his.throat.] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit At 10:20 PM 10/18/01 -0700, Fred Cohen (channeling Bob Wills LtCol of Marines (Ret)) wrote: >My American Perspective. > >"You negotiate with your enemies with your knee on his chest and your >knife at his throat." >... >1979 U.S. Embassy in Tehran >1983 U.S. Marine barracks in Lebanon >1988 Pan Am flight 103 blown up over Scotland >1988 U.S. Embassies in Kenya and Tanzania destroyed >1996 Kobhar Towers in Saudi Arabia blown up by car bomb >2000 USS Cole attacked in Yemen You've got to intersperse those dates with other events, of course, e.g.: 1953 U.S.-backed coup deposes Iranian government 1980 U.S. provides support to Iraq in its war on Iran 1988 USS Vincennes shoots down Iranian Airbus and, of course, a raft of issues regarding Israel; whether or not one believes that the U.S. should be a strong ally of Israel, one can debate the limits, e.g., in looking the other way re nuclear proliferation (I'm not sure if to this day there's an official U.S. position on whether or not Israel has the bomb... we didn't get too bent out of shape when friend Israel flew an airstrike on Iraq's Osirak reactor in 1981, though). There's more than one macho-tough dimension to this little policy crisis, though. Ross ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Get your FREE VeriSign guide to security solutions for your web site: encrypting transactions, securing intranets, and more! http://us.click.yahoo.com/UnN2wB/m5_CAA/yigFAA/kgFolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> ------------------ http://all.net/ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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