Re: [iwar] them's fightin' words

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Date: 2001-10-22 17:41:30


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I DON'T CARE IF THIS GUY PLAYS RACQUETBALL WITH THE GODS.  NO ONE WHO
IS AN INNOCENT DESERVES TO BE MURDERED BY FALSE PROPHESY. TO WRITE THIS
NOTE IS DISRESPTFUL EVEN TO ISLAM. I DID THINK WE ALL HAD SOME MANNERS
HEREIN.  THE TAKING OF NEARLY 5,000 LIVES IS NOTHING TO JOKE ABOUT.
THIS BOXER IS ENTITLED TO HIS BELIEF, ALBEIT IT SOUNDS LIKE HE WAS JUST
ANOTHER "SHOWBOATING BOXER", BUT HE DOES NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO MAKE
LITE OF SUCH A TRAGIC AND SENSLESS DAY. EVEN ALLAH WOULD FROWN UPON THE
ACTIONS OF 11 SEPT. I TRUST HIS CAREER IS OVER FOR MAKING SUCH A
DAMNING COMMENT..HE MAKES JOHN ROCKER LOOK LIKE A KIND AND UNBIGGOTED
MAN.
--- yangyun@metacrawler.com wrote:
> [Mundine said America had it coming to them on Sept 11]
> 
> S P O R T  
>
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> BOXING
> Mundine title fight in jeopardy
> Oct 23 09:13
> AAP
> 
> 
> Anthony Mundine was not welcome in the United States and his 
> upcoming title fight in Germany was in jeopardy, an angry
> International 
> Boxing Federation (IBF) executive said on Tuesday. 
> 
> Joe Dwyer, the IBF's ratings chairman, said Mundine's comments that 
> America had brought the terrorist attacks on itself had shocked his 
> boxing organisation. 
> 
> Mundine's words hit a raw nerve with Dwyer, whose son was almost 
> killed in the September 11 attack on New York's World Trade Centre. 
> 
> "Anthony Mundine is certainly entitled to his political beliefs but I
> would 
> say he certainly wouldn't be welcome in the United States," Dwyer
> told 
> AAP on Tuesday. 
> 
> The Muslim former rugby league star turned boxer said yesterday he 
> opposed Australia's involvement in Afghanistan, but last night 
> apologised for earlier comments that the United States had brought
> the 
> September 11 attacks on itself. 
> 
> He last night condemned the September 11 attacks and there was "no 
> way" the victims had brought it on themselves, adding: "I want to 
> apologise to the people that caught them statements but now you heard
> 
> me clarify myself tonight." 
> 
> However, the word from the IBF's New Jersey headquarters today was 
> that Mundine's tongue could force German promoters to cancel his 
> December 1 IBF title fight in Dortmund with super-middleweight 
> champion Sven Ottke. 
> 
> The fight would easily be the biggest of Mundine's short boxing
> career. 
> 
> "I don't know that he is welcome in Germany either," Dwyer said. 
> 
> "That fight might not even happen. 
> 
> "That's what I'm hearing from Germany. I hear they are up in arms
> about 
> it and I can understand that." 
> 
> When asked if he believed Mundine might never be allowed to fight in 
> the US, Dwyer replied: "Well, I don't know who would be looking to
> bring 
> him over here." 
> 
> "It certainly would (cost him large prize money). 
> 
> "But they are the statements he has made." 
> 
> Dwyer, as the IBF's ratings chairman, was the executive responsible
> for 
> elevating Mundine into the IBF's top 15 fighters. 
> 
> Mundine's improved rating meant he was eligible to challenge Ottke. 
> 
> "We had the fight approved because he is in our ratings and he is our
> 
> Pan-Pacific champion so there was no reason for us to not approve the
> 
> fight with Ottke but I don't know how the promoters are going to view
> 
> the comments," Dwyer said. 
> 
> "They could pull the pin on it. It is an optional defence so they
> don't 
> have to give Mundine the fight." 
> 
> Dwyer's son worked in one of the World Trade Centre towers. When the 
> first terrorist-controlled plane struck, his son was downstairs
> having a 
> cigarette and had to run for his life. 
> 
> Dwyer said although Mundine's comments struck him personally, he 
> and the IBF would maintain a professional approach to the
> controversial 
> Australian fighter. 
> 
> "It certainly hurts to hear something like that but I can't let that
> influence 
> my decisions," Dwyer said. 
> 
> "We are going to have to go by his merits as a fighter. We can't
> really 
> draw lines on people by ethnicity or anything else." 
> 
> "I think we just have to treat him based on his performance in the
> ring." 
> 
> Dwyer said he did not believe the IBF would contact Mundine. 
> 
> "I think at this stage we aren't going to touch it," Dwyer said. 
> 
> "We are going to let things fall as they may." 
> 
> 
> 


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