Return-Path: <sentto-279987-2963-1003173073-fc=all.net@returns.onelist.com> Delivered-To: fc@all.net Received: from 204.181.12.215 by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-5.1.0) for fc@localhost (single-drop); Mon, 15 Oct 2001 12:13:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 19001 invoked by uid 510); 15 Oct 2001 19:11:01 -0000 Received: from n16.groups.yahoo.com (216.115.96.66) by 204.181.12.215 with SMTP; 15 Oct 2001 19:11:01 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-279987-2963-1003173073-fc=all.net@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.1.222] by n16.groups.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Oct 2001 19:11:12 -0000 X-Sender: azb@llnl.gov X-Apparently-To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_4_1); 15 Oct 2001 19:11:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 13603 invoked from network); 15 Oct 2001 19:11:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by 10.1.1.222 with QMQP; 15 Oct 2001 19:11:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp-1.llnl.gov) (128.115.250.81) by mta1 with SMTP; 15 Oct 2001 19:11:12 -0000 Received: from poptop.llnl.gov (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp-1.llnl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3/LLNL-gateway-1.0) with ESMTP id MAA28102 for <iwar@yahoogroups.com>; Mon, 15 Oct 2001 12:11:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from catalyst.llnl.gov (catalyst.llnl.gov [128.115.222.68]) by poptop.llnl.gov (8.8.8/LLNL-3.0.2/pop.llnl.gov-5.1) with ESMTP id MAA28490 for <iwar@yahoogroups.com>; Mon, 15 Oct 2001 12:11:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20011015114705.00b02f00@poptop.llnl.gov> X-Sender: e048786@poptop.llnl.gov X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 To: iwar@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <B95B566BD245174196CA4EE29E5818830D6001@HEXCH01.robhughes.c om> From: Tony Bartoletti <azb@llnl.gov> Mailing-List: list iwar@yahoogroups.com; contact iwar-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list iwar@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:iwar-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com> Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 12:13:38 -0700 Reply-To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [iwar] Clash of interests Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think the article in question (by S.A. Abidi) seeks to go beyond a mere tallying of point-like events, attacks, etc. It is not simply "the USA is bad", or that no other nation has done bad things to the US. Rather, it is that the ramifications of super-power policies, throughout history, tend to exhibit a large degree of indifference, if not hostility, to the plight of those whose resources are seen as "vital interest" to a given superpower. The U.S. has a great task ahead of it, if it is to convey to the rest of the world that we do not ascribe to a naked "might makes right" philosophy. I happen to believe that the majority of Americans do not support such a philosophy, but the translation of a people's will into geopolitical endeavors is rarely a straightforward process. I take the gist of the article to say that as a system of people become a powerful and largely unchallenged empire, the comforted masses tend to become dangerously detached from the specifics of worldwide activities undertaken in their name. I would bet that since September 11, the number of Americans who can name the countries bordering Afganistan has risen 10,000 percent. Similarly, the amount of education regarding the histories of this region, and many related conflicts, is leaping by similar magnitudes. Perhaps if such attention were paid to global issues as a matter of course, we would all be better off. ____tony____ At 07:46 AM 10/15/01 -0500, you wrote: >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >Hash: SHA1 > >Well, now isn't that an interesting and quite selective, not to mention >naive, view of things. No mention of all the bombing attacks against the >west coast of the USA by the Empire of Japan during WWII, for starters. >Was there a point to this particular diatribe beyond "the USA is bad/we >should return to the 50's"? > >- -----Original Message----- >From: Ozair Rasheed [mailto:ozair_rasheed@geocities.com] >Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2001 9:18 PM >To: iwar@yahoogroups.com >Subject: [iwar] Clash of interests > > > > <http://www.dawn.com/weekly/dmag/dmag1.htm> >http://www.dawn.com/weekly/dmag/dmag1.htm > > >Clash of interests > > >By S.A. ABIDI > > American interest has always remained poles apart from world >interest. It is high time >Washington took a cue from history. > > <more snipped> Tony Bartoletti 925-422-3881 <azb@llnl.gov> Information Operations, Warfare and Assurance Center Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory Livermore, CA 94551-9900 ------------------ http://all.net/ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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