Return-Path: <sentto-279987-3157-1003516526-fc=all.net@returns.onelist.com> Delivered-To: fc@all.net Received: from 204.181.12.215 [204.181.12.215] by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-5.7.4) for fc@localhost (single-drop); Fri, 19 Oct 2001 13:46:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 14099 invoked by uid 510); 19 Oct 2001 18:35:03 -0000 Received: from n30.groups.yahoo.com (216.115.96.80) by 204.181.12.215 with SMTP; 19 Oct 2001 18:35:03 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-279987-3157-1003516526-fc=all.net@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.1.223] by n30.groups.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Oct 2001 18:35:27 -0000 X-Sender: azb@llnl.gov X-Apparently-To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_0_1); 19 Oct 2001 18:35:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 65131 invoked from network); 19 Oct 2001 18:35:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by 10.1.1.223 with QMQP; 19 Oct 2001 18:35:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp-2.llnl.gov) (128.115.250.82) by mta1 with SMTP; 19 Oct 2001 18:35:25 -0000 Received: from poptop.llnl.gov (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp-2.llnl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3/LLNL-gateway-1.0) with ESMTP id LAA02536 for <iwar@yahoogroups.com>; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 11:35:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from catalyst.llnl.gov (catalyst.llnl.gov [128.115.222.68]) by poptop.llnl.gov (8.8.8/LLNL-3.0.2/pop.llnl.gov-5.1) with ESMTP id LAA00430 for <iwar@yahoogroups.com>; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 11:35:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20011019113108.00c18610@poptop.llnl.gov> X-Sender: e048786@poptop.llnl.gov X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 To: iwar@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <20011019164046.35920.qmail@web14506.mail.yahoo.com> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20011018180832.00bf4550@poptop.llnl.gov> From: Tony Bartoletti <azb@llnl.gov> Mailing-List: list iwar@yahoogroups.com; contact iwar-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list iwar@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:iwar-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com> Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 11:38:12 -0700 Reply-To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [iwar] tb:Tony.Calls.For.Enhanced.Oversight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Another point... At 09:40 AM 10/19/01 -0700, you wrote: >Tony- In theory, the PFIAB and the Supreme Court and in really nasty >situations, HPSCI and SSCI do the job. The Justice Dept has an >intelligence "referee" to legally kick butts if the intel court is >abused, or uses its power in an abusive manner. The "great bulk" of fishing that may become legitimized under new legislation will likely be from the mass of low-level personnel who can simply flash a badge and state "official investigation" to gain access to our lives. I doubt that even one percent of that material will ever see the inside of an "intel court". What are/will-be the laws that ensure such broad powers will be auditable to any effect? ____tony____ Tony Bartoletti 925-422-3881 <azb@llnl.gov> Information Operations, Warfare and Assurance Center Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory Livermore, CA 94551-9900 ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Pinpoint the right security solution for your company- Learn how to add 128- bit encryption and to authenticate your web site with VeriSign's FREE guide! http://us.click.yahoo.com/yQix2C/33_CAA/yigFAA/kgFolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> ------------------ http://all.net/ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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